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发表于 2009-2-3 22:55:01 | 显示全部楼层
贴一部分,原文太长了。
军队实力也有不少疑惑。萨克森骑兵有口皆碑,比较的是疑惑萨克森步兵的能力。鱼鹰上说也相当不错,也有不少说较差的(比如马尔博)。波兰维斯图拉的步兵感觉还不错,比如赫洛平茨基在萨贡图。
我选的还是波兰。
Order of Battle / Ordre de Bataille
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Polish troops in August 1812 in Russia.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Polish army in 1812 consisted of 22 infantry and 20 cavalry regiments.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - There were also the Vistula Legion and Guard Lancers.

Main Polish Force
V Army Corps (16th, 17th, 18th Infantry Division
Light Cavalry Division, Reserve Artillery)
       
Other Polish Units
V Army Corps
Commander: GdD Prince Jozef Poniatowski
Chief-of-Staff: GdD Fiszer
Chief-of-Artillery: GdB Pelletier [Frenchman]

16th Infantry Division - GdD Zajaczek
Infantry Brigade - GdB Mielzynski
. . . 3rd Infantry Regiment (2.621 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
. . . 15th Infantry Regiment (2.675 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
Infantry Brigade - GdB Paszkowski
. . . 13th Infantry Regiment (2.371 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
. . . 16th Infantry Regiment (2.679 men,2 3pdr cannons)
Artillery - Chef ?
. . . III Foot Battery (144 men, 4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers)
. . . XII Foot Battery (159 men, 4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers)
. . . Sapper Company (72 men)

17th Infantry Division - GdD Dabrowski
Infantry Brigade - GdB Zoltowski
. . . 1st Infantry Regiment (2.396 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
. . . 6th Infantry Regiment (2.543 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
Infantry Brigade - GdB Krasinski
. . . 14th Infantry Regiment (2.544 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
. . . 17th Infantry Regiment (2.666 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
Artillery - Chef Gugenmus
. . . X Foot Battery (167 men, 4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers)
. . . XI Foot Battery (175 men, 4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers)
. . . Sapper Company (71 men)

18th Infantry Division - GdD Kniaziewicz
Infantry Brigade - GdB Grabowski
. . . 2nd Infantry Regiment (2.420 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
. . . 8th Infantry Regiment (2.422 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
Infantry Brigade - GdB Pakosz
. . . 12th Infantry Regiment (2.206 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
. . . This infantry regiment was detached
Artillery - Chef ?
. . . IV Foot Battery (163 men, 4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers)
. . . V Foot Battery (153 men, 4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers)
. . . Sapper Company (61 men)

Light Cavalry Division - GdD Kaminski
Sebastiani,Lefebvre-Desnouettes
18th Light Cavalry Brigade - GdB ?
. . . 4th Chasseur-a-Cheval Regiment (786 men)
19th Light Cavalry Brigade - GdB ?
. . . 1st Chasseur-a-Cheval Regiment (652 men)
. . . 12th Uhlan Regiment (497 men)
19th Light Cavalry Brigade - GdB ?
. . . 5th Chasseur-a-Cheval Regiment (791 men)
. . . 13th Hussar Regiment (755 men)

Corps Reserve Artillery - Col. Gorski
. . . II Horse Battery (152 men, 4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers)
. . . XIV Foot Battery (158 men, 6 12pdr cannons)
. . . Pontoneers (121 men, bridging equipment)
General Artillery Park
. . . VII Foot Battery (169 men, no guns)
. . . VIII Foot Battery (81 men, no guns)
. . . IX Foot Battery (86 men, no guns)
. . . XIII Foot Battery (75 men, no guns)
. . . XV Foot Battery (89 men, no guns)

        in the Imperial Guard:
. . . Guard Lancer Regiment - GdB Konopka

in the Vistula Legion under GdD Claparede
1st Infantry Brigade - GdB Chlopicki
. . . 1st Infantry Regiment of Vistula Legion
. . . 2nd Infantry Regiment of Vistula Legion
2nd Infantry Brigade - GdB Bronikowski
. . . 3rd Infantry Regiment of Vistula Legion
. . . 4th Infantry Regiment of Vistula Legion
Artillery .
. . . Foot Battery (4 cannons and 2 howitzers)
. . . Foot Battery (4 cannons and 2 howitzers)

in 28th Infantry Division under GdD Girard
Infantry Brigade -
. . . 2nd Infantry Regiment (1.331 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
. . . 7th Infantry Regiment (967 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
. . . 9th Infantry Regiment (1.281 men, 2 3pdr cannons)
Artillery
. . . I Foot Battery (67 men, 4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers)
. . . II Foot Battery (?? men, 4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers)
. . . Sapper Company (97 men)

in 4th Light Cavalry Division under GdD Rozniecki
28th Light Cavalry Brigade - GdB Dziewanowski
. . . 2nd Uhlan Regiment (596 men)
. . . 7th Uhlan Regiment (672 men)
. . . 11th Uhlan Regiment (551 men)
29th Light Cavalry Brigade - GdB Turno
. . . 3rd Uhlan Regiment (658 men)
. . . 11th Uhlan Regiment (688 men)
. . . 16th Uhlan Regiment (728 men)

in 7th Heavy Cavalry Division under GdD Lorge
. . . 14th Cuirassier Regiment (300 men ?)

Artillery of IV Cavalry Corps
. . . III Horse Battery (168 men, 4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers)
. . . IV Horse Battery (167 men, 4 6pdr cannons, 2 howitzers)



Saxon Infantry.

Saxon infantry. On picture: Saxon infantry in 1810 - drummer of Prinz August Infantry, and musketier of Low Infantry. Picture by Alexander Sauerweid.

Each Saxon infantry regiment had 2 colors, one for each battalion. The first battalion carried the white Life-Color, while the 2nd Battalion carried the ordinary color "whose base was the regimental facing color." It is not clear if the light troops had standards. In 1793 the Saxon infantry consisted of 12 line regiments and Lifeguard Grenadier Regiment (Leib-Grenadier-Garde Regiment). Several regiments ceased to exists or were renamed between 1793 and 1815.

# Lifeguard Grenadiers
# 1. Kurfürst
- in 1806 König (King's Own)
- 1813 Provisional Guard
- 1815 Guard
# 2. Prinz Anton
- 1813 1st Provisional
- 1815 Prinz Anton
# 3. Maximilian
- 1813 2nd Provisional
- 1815 Maximilian
# 4. Friedrich August
- 1813 3rd Provisional
- 1815 Friedrich August
# 5. Xavier
- 1806 Oebschelwitz
- 1810 disbanded
# 6. Clemens
- 1812 Steindel
- 1813 disbanded
# 7. Lindt
- 1801 Rechten
- 1813 disbanded
# 8. Niesemeuschel
1810-1813 vacant
# 9. Aus dem Winkel
- 1798 Sänger
- 1808 Cerrini
- 1810 disbanded
# 10. Löw
- 1813 disbanded
# 11. Nostitz
- 1802 Thummel
- 1808 Burgsdorf
- 1810 disbanded
# 12. von der Heyde
- 1800 Braune
- 1800 Ryssel
- 1805 Bunau
- 1806 Bevilaqua
- 1808 Dyherrn
- 1810 disbanded
#

Saxon Cavalry.

Saxon Garde du Corps in Borodino, by Mark Churms Each squadron (except the hussars) did carry standards and the colors were unique to each regiment. The Saxaon cavalry consisted of several regiments of heavy and light cavalry. Some units ceased to exists or were renamed between 1793 and 1815.

# Garde du Corps
# Guard Carabiniers (Karabinier-Garde)
- 1810 disbanded
# Anhlat Cuirassiers
- 1809 Zastrow Cuirassiers
- 1813 disbanded
# Kurfürst Cuirassiers
- 1806 König (King's Own) Cuirassiers
- 1807 Leib-Garde (Lifeguard) Cuirassiers
- 1813 Cuirassiers
# Prinz Clemens Chevauxlegeres
- 1811 Prinz Clemens Uhlans
# Prinz Albrecht Chevauxlegeres
- 1813 disbanded
# Polenz Chevauxlegeres
- 1810 vacant
- 1811 von Polenz Chevauxlegeres
- 1813 disbanded
# Hussar Regiment
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-3 22:58:40 | 显示全部楼层
多谢了。
我也是认为萨克森骑兵非常出色但是步兵可能就……说起来很奇怪我总会想起那个拿破仑1813战史里对萨克森步兵的设置。
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发表于 2009-2-3 23:41:32 | 显示全部楼层
请教一下:萨克森军在拿破仑麾下有什么突出战绩吗?
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发表于 2009-2-4 08:06:58 | 显示全部楼层
博罗季诺,萨克森胸甲骑兵的冲锋
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发表于 2009-2-4 16:30:42 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 LANCER 于 2009-2-3 22:58 发表
多谢了。
我也是认为萨克森骑兵非常出色但是步兵可能就……说起来很奇怪我总会想起那个拿破仑1813战史里对萨克森步兵的设置。

算不错的了,有0.9,威斯特法利亚的步兵还有0.8呢,那才叫想不通!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-4 17:29:44 | 显示全部楼层
说实话,我感到很奇怪的是那里符腾堡步兵是比较强的……比意大利步兵强,好像比瑞典步兵都强。

[ 本帖最后由 LANCER 于 2009-2-4 17:31 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-2-4 17:38:40 | 显示全部楼层
强的是莱茵同盟,步兵能升级到资深级别,1.1,符腾堡是1.0到头
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-2-4 20:13:27 | 显示全部楼层
大家对巴伐利亚有什么看法呢?
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发表于 2009-2-4 22:55:57 | 显示全部楼层
没看法,傀儡而已,小国只能听话
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发表于 2009-2-6 16:43:56 | 显示全部楼层
怎么还有人选择西班牙呢??
我觉得荷兰也应该算吧。。。
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