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 楼主| 发表于 2017-6-6 07:09:10 | 显示全部楼层
1806年12月的普图斯克-戈里明之战,马穆鲁克也曾与俄军骑兵交手。马穆鲁克中队的传奇人物阿布达拉.达斯邦更是在戈里明之战被骑枪穿透7次,可见骑枪在骑兵格斗中是颇具威力的,而哥萨克最擅长使用骑枪。
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发表于 2017-6-6 08:40:12 | 显示全部楼层
朔风 发表于 2017-6-6 00:37
奥曼的说法基本符合事实,但不全面。近卫猎骑兵团除了4个猎骑兵中队还有马穆鲁克中队,被奥曼忽略了。英 ...

圣伊莱的书链接在此:

http://www.napoleon-series.org/m ... re/c_sthilaire.html
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发表于 2017-6-6 18:52:20 | 显示全部楼层
朔风 发表于 2017-6-6 01:22
马穆鲁克肯定在达尔曼准将率领下参与了埃劳大冲锋。关于贝纳文特之战的普遍说法是近卫猎骑团渡河击退当面 ...

de Gonneville回忆录也说是过河后追得太远遭遇伏击,North可能是把两次渡河弄混了(是被赶过Elsa河时损失不小)
https://books.google.com/books?id=3lREAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA195
另外,Daumesnil传记也有详细描写
By Christmas Day, the Guard was at Tordesillas, from which Soult’s men had been driven by Moore ten days previously, but there was no time for thoughts of peace on earth. At 5:30 that afternoon, the Guard foot and cavalry were again on the move, following Ney’s troops, headed for Medina del Rio Seco, since the Emperor’s latest reports had placed the British in the Leon-Sahagun area. But Moore was proving to be an elusive quarry, and by the 27th his whereabouts were still not clear. Then Ney’s cavalry scouts found the British at Mayorga, and once again Napoleon shifted the direction of Ney’s advance toward Valderas, in order to swing behind and around Moore. Then, learning that the British were in Benavente, Napoleon wrote to Lefebvre-Desnoëttes, telling him to press ahead with the Chasseurs to make contact with the enemy, and to attempt by harassing actions to fix them until the rest of the army could come up. Finally, he sent the Polish Light Horse to support Lefebvre-Desnoëttes.
In his Carnets, Guyot provides a baldly factual account of the ill-advised and disastrous action into which Lefèbvre-Desnoëttes impetuously plunged the Chasseurs. Arriving in Castro Gonsalvo on the late afternoon of the 28th, well in advance of the General Headquarters, Lefebvre-Desnoëttes sent an advance guard of Chasseurs to scout out British activity in the vicinity of Benavente, on the opposite side of the Esla, a small river flowing southwest and emptying into the Duoro. The Chasseurs observed some British troops engaging in demolishing the wooden bridge leading across the Esla to Benavente, and a brief exchange of musket fire took place, resulting in the fatal wounding of one of the Mameluke officers, Azaria.
At 6:00 the next morning, the young general had his regiment in the saddle, and was looking for a means of crossing the river in order to continue the reconnaissance to Benavente and beyond. By that time, the bridge had been rendered impassable, and any effort to repair it in the face of the enemy, who could be seen on the far bank observing the French movements, was out of the question. As it happened, at virtually the same time Napoleon was writing to Lefebvre-Desnoëttes, telling him not to compromise the Guard cavalry and not to push the matter, if the bridge was guarded by infantry.
Apparently without having received the Emperor’s instructions, and having located a ford opposite Castro Gonsalvo, Lefebvre-Desnoëttes led his 400 Chasseurs through the rapid-flowing, powerful currents of the Esla, swollen by snow and rain, and the regiment’s advance guard galloped off in pursuit of the forty British cavalry, who had been posted near the bridgehead. Having pursued the enemy for several kilometers, right up to the gates to Benavente, the Chasseurs were driven back by the British main guard. Lefebvre then sent forward the first and fifth companies to support the advance guard, but those men were immediately set upon by three British squadrons coming out of Benavente.
Guyot was then ordered to take the second and sixth companies to disengage the men of the regiment from their assailants so that they might withdraw, but the continuing increase in the numbers of British cavalry being fed into the fray was making the regiment’s position increasingly perilous. At the head of the second and sixth companies, Guyot charged a dense column of cavalry approaching his line of battle, breaking up several of its squadrons. In a few moments, he had 30 to 40 prisoners to deal with, and a number of wounded on the field of battle. Some 60 riderless British horses were running loose through the regiment’s ranks.
Guyot managed to amalgamate his two companies with the first and fifth and to get them in a line of battle, but by now there were 19 British squadrons facing him, and he was forced to retreat. At that point Lefebvre-Desnoëttes sent Major Thiry, with the last 150 men of the final companies, to Guyot’s aid, but that weak reinforcement could only fire on the mass of British cavalry, without having an appreciable effect. Lord Paget, commanding the British cavalry, ordered his men to charge the French, and they succeeded in pushing the Chasseurs back to the ford across from Castro Gonsalvo, despite a stubborn resistance on the latter’s part. The colonel of the 7th Light Dragoons and a major were killed, and some 200 British troopers wounded, of whom 27 died either on the field of battle or in Benavente the next day.
In their precipitate retreat, the Chasseurs had lost two officers and six troopers killed, and another 35 men, whose horses were too worn and exhausted to go on, had been captured. It was at the ford, through which the regiment had passed just one hour previously, that Lefebvre-Desnoëttes was captured, as he vainly attempted to keep the men of the regiment from returning to the left bank of the river. Guyot comments that it was a very good thing that he was unable to do so, because if the Chasseurs had retreated down that bank of the Esla, they would have fallen into the hands of another eight squadrons of British cavalry, who were covering the right flank of the retreating British column.
Guyot concludes his account by saying that, once he had regained the left bank with the surviving 300 Chasseurs, they remained there, and the British made no attempt to pursue them through the ford. He sent a report of the affair to the Emperor, who was still at Valderas, and by three that afternoon Napoleon had arrived at Castro Gonsalvo. Guyot’s resentment over Lefebvre-Desnoëtte’s having been given command of the regiment in preference to himself was undoubtedly heightened by the rash and disastrous conduct of his commander on this occasion. Guyot commented that Lefebvre-Desnoëttes was made a prisoner, together with three other officers, because he abandoned the regiment at the height of the retreat.
The losses to the regiment were severe: two lieutenants and six Chasseurs killed, and six officers and 62 Chasseurs wounded. When Napoleon learned how roughly his favorite regiment had been handled, he was furious, but he ended up by seemingly approving their commander’s conduct. Dupont comments that, in order to make it clear to every one that he did not harbor any resentment against the young general for his ill-considered action, Napoleon declared that the position of regimental commander would remain vacant until Lefebvre-Desnoëttes’ return. One can imagine the effect that that decision had on Guyot, who would, by reason of that decision, remain as the acting regimental commander until Lefebvre’s return in 1812.17 Although he never realized his ambition to command the regiment in which he had played such an important role, Guyot became a général de division in December 1811, and was given command of the Horse Grenadiers in November of 1813.

Napoleon's Shield & Guardian, p. 179-181
作者应当是看过Guyot, Général Comte, Carnets de campagnes (1792–1815),可能是目前英文里最详尽的法方描述

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 楼主| 发表于 2017-6-7 00:11:54 | 显示全部楼层
装甲掷弹熊 发表于 2017-6-6 18:52
de Gonneville回忆录也说是过河后追得太远遭遇伏击,North可能是把两次渡河弄混了(是被赶过Elsa河时损失 ...

多谢资料,Daumesnil传记引用古耀将军笔记对此战进行了非常详细的描述,看得很过瘾。看来双方都是分阶段逐次投入兵力,交战了有一个多小时,法军骑兵在渡河前就遭遇了阻击,骑渡过河而不是走浮桥,这些描述纠正了我之前一些想当然的判断。可能这种骑兵前哨战在大多数时候都是逐次投入兵力,毕竟战马体力有限,骑兵战就是比拼谁最后还掌握着战马体力充足的预备队,那种集中大兵力横扫过去的“骑砍”式冲锋可能仅限于于中世纪战斗

德.戈纳维尔上校的回忆录对此战有个基本总结,不过有个地方存疑。他在描述法军骑兵过河时用的是“swam across”,不知是译文问题还是原文就如此。
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 楼主| 发表于 2017-6-7 00:42:33 | 显示全部楼层
小阿扎利亚在过河前就已重伤,看来并未参加之后的骑兵战。另外,拿破仑给戴努埃特的命令是向贝纳文特方向“火力侦察”,拖住敌人直到大部队赶到。近卫猎骑团担负侦察与抓俘的任务并无问题,但如果真想“by harassing actions to fix them until the rest of the army could come up”,就显得兵力不足。不过根据德.戈纳维尔回忆,拿破仑从未下过类似命令。个人认为戴部作为骑兵前哨,任务应当是侦察和打探英军主力,拿破仑恐怕没有下过让该部牵制敌军的任务,这种任务理应由一支兵种齐全实力可观的前卫部队承担,而不是一个骑兵团。
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 楼主| 发表于 2017-6-7 00:48:35 | 显示全部楼层
Abercomby 发表于 2017-6-6 08:40
圣伊莱的书链接在此:

http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/organization/France/Guard/History/ ...

原来“此非彼”,这个作家还写过不少拿破仑时代的历史小说。
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发表于 2017-6-7 19:59:45 | 显示全部楼层
朔风 发表于 2017-6-7 00:48
原来“此非彼”,这个作家还写过不少拿破仑时代的历史小说。

关于近卫军的许多误传都来自这老兄……
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发表于 2017-6-7 20:18:20 | 显示全部楼层
朔风 发表于 2017-6-7 00:11
多谢资料,Daumesnil传记引用古耀将军笔记对此战进行了非常详细的描述,看得很过瘾。看来双方都是分阶段 ...

原文是
la passa à la nage avec ses chasseurs et les mamelucks

看起来真是游
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发表于 2017-6-7 21:28:57 | 显示全部楼层
朔风 发表于 2017-6-6 01:26
阿尔滕堡之战与哥萨克有直接交锋,值得研究。哈瑙之战看序列没有俄军,不过不能就此否定没有哥萨克参战,因 ...

普拉托夫、奥尔洛夫-杰尼索夫所部在哈瑙都参战过

可见Nafziger的Napoleon at Leipzig

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 楼主| 发表于 2017-6-8 02:11:16 | 显示全部楼层
装甲掷弹熊 发表于 2017-6-7 19:59
关于近卫军的许多误传都来自这老兄……

毕竟主业是小说家与报刊连载作家,得有点“编”的才能
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