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[讨论] 苏尔特叛变的后果

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发表于 2010-11-23 19:11:55 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
如果苏尔特临时后悔,随包弗蒙特之后夜间叛变,带着拿破仑的法国境内防御要塞部署图及参谋部战术地图以及一切对拿破仑及其重要的资料投靠普军,条件是路易十八复辟后给予法国首相的报酬。联军会答应吗?
拿破仑得知苏尔特叛变的话,会取消比利时军事行动收兵回国吗
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发表于 2010-11-23 19:20:10 | 显示全部楼层
汗…这…
估计和布尔蒙差不多…连受益的布鲁歇尔都为他的行为感到可耻。
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发表于 2010-11-23 19:30:02 | 显示全部楼层
苏尔特都叛变,那拿破仑就不玩了
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发表于 2010-11-23 19:36:26 | 显示全部楼层
苏尔特的人品再有问题,这种事做不出来的吧,他又不是像马尔蒙那样的小人……
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发表于 2010-11-23 19:42:58 | 显示全部楼层
关于马尔蒙投降,布里昂有不同看法,但不知道有几成是真的。
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发表于 2010-11-23 19:47:27 | 显示全部楼层
回复 5# iron duke
    请公爵讲讲内幕啦~
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发表于 2010-11-23 19:48:17 | 显示全部楼层
愿闻其详。
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发表于 2010-11-23 19:50:11 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 我们的小伍长 于 2010-11-23 19:59 编辑

我在想,1815年的达武在拿破仑的心中,已经是未来候补的帝国宰相了吧。
几经风雨,那么多人都背叛或者离开了拿破仑,只有达武还不离不弃。
而且,达武的军政和军令两方面都有两把刷子,这样的人不多啊。
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发表于 2010-11-23 20:14:54 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 iron duke 于 2010-11-23 21:18 编辑

布里昂的回忆录见:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3567/3567-h/3567-h.htm

说法
1) 马尔蒙用不足9千战5万5,力战12小时,杀伤14000(这个数字不必当真)。马尔蒙亲临前沿,帽子被击穿,身边倒下十余被刺倒的人(当然不是他亲自拼刺刀,但站在拼刺刀的地方指挥也相当不易)。
The corps he commanded was reduced to between 7000 and 8000 infantry and 800 cavalry, with whom, for the space of twelve hours he maintained his ground against an army of 55,000 men, of whom it is said 14,000 were killed, wounded, and taken. Marshal Marmont put himself so forward in the heat of the battle that a dozen of men were killed by the bayonet at his side, and his hat was perforated by a ball.

2)谈判是约瑟夫同意的:
   If the Dukes of Ragusa and Treviso can no longer hold out, they are
   authorised to negotiate with Prince Schwartzenberg and the Emperor
   of Russia, who are before them.

   They will fall back on the Loire.
                  (Signed)  JOSEPH

   Montmartre, 30th March 1814, 12 oclock

3)马尔蒙对布里昂解释,是为了巴黎居民意愿。
Marshal Marmont has since said to me, "I have been blamed, my dear Bourrienne: but you were with me on the 30th of March. You were a witness to the wishes expressed by a portion of the principal inhabitants of Paris. I acted as I was urged to do only because I considered the meeting to be composed of men entirely disinterested, and who had nothing to expect from the return of the Bourbons."

4)马尔蒙象施瓦岑贝格提了条件,必须保持皇帝安全和自由。否则投降无效。
To the Prince's letter Marmont replied, that he was disposed to concur in the union of the army and the people, which would avert all chance of civil war, and stop the effusion of French blood; and that he was ready with his troops to quit the army of the Emperor Napoleon on the condition that his troops might retire with the honours of war, and that the safety and liberty of the Emperor were guaranteed by the Allies.
After Prince Schwartzenberg acceded to these conditions Marmont was placed in circumstances which obliged him to request that he might be released from his promise.

5) 在马尔蒙,内伊,麦克唐纳与沙皇谈判期间。马尔蒙军部将在他不在时候自行兵变,决定开到联军监视区。
The march of his corps on Versailles threw Marmont into despair. He said to the Marshals, "I must be off to join my corps and quell this mutiny;" and without losing a moment he ordered his carriage and directed the coachman to drive with the utmost speed. He sent forward one of his aides de camp to inform the troops of his approach.

问题是布里昂的回忆水分很大,真真假假不知可信度多少。
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发表于 2010-11-23 21:25:13 | 显示全部楼层
如果苏尔特临时后悔,随包弗蒙特之后夜间叛变,带着拿破仑的法国境内防御要塞部署图及参谋部战术地图以及一 ...
小苏尔特 发表于 2010-11-23 19:11

Bourmont 怎么会给翻成“包弗蒙特”...
法语、英语似都不该这么读,可能是非普通话+英音译出的结果?
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