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[讨论] 苏尔特叛变的后果

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发表于 2010-11-23 22:37:34 | 显示全部楼层
回复 8# 我们的小伍长
可是到了1815年达武拿破仑的私人关系已经恶化到不可复合的地步,只是作为军人的责任才让他继续为拿破仑服务。
http://bbs.napolun.com/viewthread.php?tid=31294
这帖24#是一篇达武传29#30#是他们私人关系的论文。
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发表于 2010-11-23 22:47:54 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 高守业 于 2010-11-23 22:56 编辑

回复 9# iron duke
    1814年那种情况叛变倒也能理解,不过“百日”之后大肆报复波拿巴分子就有些过分了。
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发表于 2010-11-23 23:16:55 | 显示全部楼层
王党给吓着了,怕再给掀翻,百日跟国王走的克拉克部下有个副官就建议:回去把军队解散拉倒,再重建一支,现在这支军队太可怕了。
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发表于 2010-11-24 08:10:17 | 显示全部楼层
麦克林恩老师说,达武到最后也对皇帝失去了信心,要不然皇帝留在那个鸟地方干什么?
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发表于 2010-11-25 20:32:03 | 显示全部楼层
如果拿破仑和达武的私人关系这么糟,那为什么还把“陆军大臣”和“巴黎城防司令”这样的要职交给他?
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发表于 2010-11-26 08:25:18 | 显示全部楼层
因为他毕竟是个可以托付的人,再怎么糟达武还是个有原则的人,我相信皇帝没有看错人。至于1815年兵败之后,任何人都知道没戏了。
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发表于 2010-11-28 13:26:03 | 显示全部楼层
如果拿破仑和达武的私人关系这么糟,那为什么还把“陆军大臣”和“巴黎城防司令”这样的要职交给他?
我们的小伍长 发表于 2010-11-25 20:32


http://www.napoleonicsociety.com ... hip97/c_davout.html

    When Napoleon returned from Elba in March of 1815, Davout, who had never sworn allegiance to Louis XVIII--as had most of his fellow marshals--, once again offered his services. It was the first time that he had seen the emperor since the latter's departure from Russia in 1812. Although he asked for a field command, Napoleon insisted that he accept a desk job, that of minister of war. The emperor had need of an organizer and a disciplinarian who by virtue of his military experience and reputation would command the respect and loyalty of the army and would not be dominated or controlled by the civilians. [22] Despite their differences in the past, Napoleon believed that if there was one man in all of France in whose hands Paris and his government could be entrusted while he was on campaign, it was Louis Nicholas Davout.

The relationship between the emperor and his minister of war was one of need and duty. Many of Napoleon's former supporters--Marshals Berthier, Ney, Murat, Nicholas Oudinot, to mention but a few--either did not offer their services or were refused service because of previous conduct. The emperor was in desperate need of loyal and capable men, and Davout was a welcome addition to the restored imperial regime. However, there was not the affection which had marked the early years of the empire. Davout still saw in Napoleon the savior of the revolution and the best government for France. But the personal attachment, which Davout had felt in the years prior to 1812. had diminished. He continued to equate Napoleon with France; and, therefore, he believed it to be his duty to serve, but his principal consideration in serving was now the good of France.
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发表于 2010-11-28 13:31:19 | 显示全部楼层
麦克林恩老师说,达武到最后也对皇帝失去了信心,要不然皇帝留在那个鸟地方干什么?
蓝色拿破仑 发表于 2010-11-24 08:10



    When Napoleon returned from Waterloo, Davout was one of the few who counseled the continuation of the struggle. But when the emperor first hesitated and then refused to dissolve the assemblies, Davout supported abdication. As military commander of Paris and of the army, he arranged the removal of Napoleon to Malmaison and finally saw to his safe conduct to Rochefort.

http://www.napoleonicsociety.com ... hip97/c_davout.html

军事方面,卡尔诺和达武准备帮助皇帝战斗到最后一刻。但是,皇帝似乎失去了再次一搏的雄心,已经准备退位了。

http://bbs.napolun.com/viewthrea ... amp;extra=page%3D13
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发表于 2010-11-28 15:52:30 | 显示全部楼层
“麦克林恩说”
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