一个法国拿破仑论坛的投票结果（关于最优秀的帝国骑士）

朔风

再引段马尔波的回忆录：
In spite of all these mishaps, so great were our advantages that it was yet possible to win the battle. Montbrun's cavalry, having beaten that of the enemy, soon found itself in presence of Craufurd's infantry. It charged and broke two squares, cutting one literally to pieces. The men of the 2nd threw down their arms and fled to the plain; Colonel Hill surrendered his sword to Staff-Adjutant Dulimberg of the 13th Chasseurs, and we took 1,500 prisoners. The third English square held firm. Montbrun caused Fournier's and Wathiez' brigades to attack it, and they had pierced one of the faces when both generals had their horses killed under them and all the colonels were wounded, so that there was nobody to take charge of the victorious regiments. Montbrun hastened up, but the enemy's square had been reformed, and, in order to attack it, he would have to reform his own squadrons.

三个方阵应该不是因为正在解散才被法军骑兵击破了吧。

iron duke

看来果然是指G希尔的那3个连，他实际是中校，属于斯潘塞的第1师STOPFORD旅。鱼鹰讲同时约100人伤亡，20人被俘。
http://photo.163.com/photos/he3hai/28195351/724032042/
这个相差太大了。从建制看，1500是不会的。STOPFORD旅总共才1900人，G希尔的近卫3团第1营估计有900人左右。前卫不该高于此数。不过想想这个团可是后来守乌古蒙的主力之一，几分钟破掉也是很了不起了。

[ 本帖最后由 iron duke 于 2006-6-9 07:07 编辑 ]

朔风

奇怪，看过几个法语资料，都是俘虏至少1千5以上，马尔波的回忆录上也是这样写的。我还是有时间去一趟中央图书馆把TRANIE那本书般来查查吧，如果只是俘虏20人，也真谈不上什么优秀战绩了，皇帝也没必要因此准备封他为少将。比较令我苦恼的是，数据相差太大了，不知道该相信马尔波，马塞尔，勒维萨的著作还是该相信鱼鹰的数据。
在BRITISHBATTLES的网站看到的：3rd Guards lost 2 officers and 57 soldiers killed and wounded
比鱼鹰说的100人还要少。。。。。。。
另外，蒙布伦骑兵对付的不是克劳佛德的步兵吗，怎么俘虏的是近卫3团。

iron duke

以马尔波的位置不少记述只能听别人的描述，甚至传说，比如索莫谢拉。奥里弗在英译版前言曾说：
By far the greater part of his narrative has the ring of truth, but in my opinion there are places where his imagination has embroidered the facts. This is particularly so when it comes to some of his personal adventures. He also,in my view, describes as real, events in which he did not take part and which may be no more than popular rumour.
法军骑兵在富恩特斯打得是很不错的。当时骑兵部队编制较弱，萨尔洛维茨属戴尔隆的军骑兵，3个团不足800。蒙布伦的骑兵预备队6个团才1200不到。攻击那天，蒙布伦总领所有骑兵，但勒比克的部队因贝西埃不合作调不动。
蒙布伦先击破了桑切斯的游击队，然后连续和英军骑兵，骑炮，第7师作战，接下来对克劳福德作有限攻击，最后是和第1师(斯潘塞)，第3师(皮克顿)作战。使英军险象环生。
马尔波的数字估计含了抓到桑切斯的游击队，他把总数当成对G希尔战绩。把G希尔算到克劳福德师应该是马尔波搞混了。
按 http://gustave.club.fr/historique/Fournier.pdf 的资料萨尔洛维茨是因LUGO之战(以一敌十那次)的表现升的少将。其在别列津纳也不亚于LUGO。

[ 本帖最后由 iron duke 于 2006-6-9 18:19 编辑 ]

朔风

原来如此。
萨尔洛维茨在别列津纳非常勇猛，其他人如维可多，吉拉尔都非常顽强，不过主要还是靠萨尔洛维茨的骑兵才能完成任务。