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发表于 2006-9-25 11:01:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
请根据前面讨论的结果选出你认为最准确的译名.期限为5天.5天之后如果我未关闭此主题,请奥斯特里茨馆长关闭.结果作为最终译名.

[ 本帖最后由 蓝色拿破仑 于 2006-9-25 11:04 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-25 11:06:58 | 显示全部楼层
我投第三项.
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发表于 2006-9-25 11:20:47 | 显示全部楼层
贴一个卡宾枪骑兵的图和一篇有关文章(描述了一部分滑铁卢战役)



The 2nd Belgian Carabiniers (2ième Régiment de Carabiniers)

In 1814, the newly founded Kingdom of the Netherlands was rapidly building up its army in order to be able to defend the sovereignty of the country. At the Congress of Vienna, the allied powers decided that they needed a strong buffer state at France's northern borders, so the erstwhile Austrian Netherlands (currently Belgium) were to be amalgamated with the former Kingdom of Holland into the United Kingdom of the Netherlands.

In the fall of 1814, preparations were made to raise new regiments in all parts of the country, also in what were now named the Southern Netherlands. In Brussels the 2nd (Southern Netherlands) Carbineers were formed as one of the three heavy cavalry regiments destined to become cuirassiers. Many of the veterans of the 14th Cuirassiers and other regiments such as the 27th Chasseur à Cheval joined this new regiment.

Most of the officers were highly experienced and a substantial number of them had been awarded the Légion d'Honneur during their service in the Grande Armée. Commanding the regiment was Jean-Baptiste de Bruijn. During the 1815 campaign the 2nd Carbineers were part of the Heavy Cavalry Brigade under the command of General Trip, who had led the 14th Cuirassiers in the past. The other heavy cavalry regiments were the 1st and 3rd (Dutch) Carbineers. Just like the British cavalry the Carbineers didn't take part in the battle of Quatre-Bras, but were in time to join Wellington's army as it took up positions on the heights of Mont St Jean., near the village of Waterloo.

The Carbineers remained in the centre during the entire battle. The 2nd Carbineers are known to have taken part in at least three charges upon the French heavy cavalry. At 16:00 hours when the French massive cavalry charge against the allied centre took place. In this countercharge Trips' heavy brigade succeeded in throwing the French off the ridge. At about 18:00 hours when the French Cavalry charges became weaker and allowed the heavily pressed allied cavalry to adopt once again a more offensive role. And finally at about 20:00 hours when the whole allied line advanced. Losses were quite heavy and amounted to about a third of the original strength.

After the Battle of Waterloo, the 2nd Carbineers took part in the march upon Paris, which soon ended the campaign. They returned to their garrison in Brussels in December 1815.

[ 本帖最后由 eastknight 于 2006-9-25 11:32 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-25 11:21:47 | 显示全部楼层
我希望大家能先看讨论帖,不要凭个人感情去投票.
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发表于 2006-9-25 16:57:00 | 显示全部楼层
我也投卡宾枪骑兵。但是,能不能枪字去掉呢?

卡宾骑兵,如何?
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发表于 2006-9-25 17:12:48 | 显示全部楼层
个人喜欢马枪骑兵。
卡宾枪骑兵有断字的麻烦,第一眼可能看成卡宾 lancier,
卡宾骑兵很好,但这个译名比较新,此外,兵种名称中用音译的似乎较少。
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-9-25 17:26:19 | 显示全部楼层
译作新名不宜,译作卡宾骑兵反而空添麻烦.叫人以为咱们好像少字了.
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发表于 2006-9-26 01:20:23 | 显示全部楼层
完全是个人看法:觉得马枪骑兵这个名字,有点不好听,投了卡宾枪骑兵
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发表于 2006-9-26 09:47:48 | 显示全部楼层
其实我也觉得卡宾枪骑兵比较好,虽说有点别扭和绕口。
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发表于 2006-9-26 16:37:25 | 显示全部楼层
我看过某些资料翻译成“骑兵卡宾枪手”,通顺是通顺,但微嫌字数太多,还是“卡宾枪骑兵”好一些,“马枪骑兵”总觉得不太好听
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