抛砖引玉---二战战列舰最远命中记录（大家帮着补充其他记录）

thorongil

女王、R级、声望级、胡德号都是一战时的设计.....只有纳尔逊级和乔治五世级和前卫号不是

日本也差不多，金刚级、扶桑级、伊势级都是一战过程中建造的，长门级比纳尔逊级还要老一点，日本真正的新战列舰只有大和级


1942年第一支远东舰队不能说是躲日本战列舰，因为日本在南洋只有两艘最老的金刚级战列舰（金刚和榛名）.....只是山本认为用航空兵攻击英国战列舰更实惠，所以双方才没有交火.....第二只远东舰队时，南云的机动舰队就在南洋，所以双方战列舰还是没有机会交火

luisalonso

大河的姊妹舰武藏号也很厉害，但不知道有什么作战记录？

thorongil

没有任何记录.......要说记录，可能是沉没前挨过最多的鱼雷吧......

bfvolev

这个记录.....寒....
30000米真是夸张

iron duke

下面这个需要求证一下，衣阿华的38000码可能是战列舰实战最远对舰开火距离。另外如果那次35000码的跨射真象那个日本文献说的造成损伤，35000码近失应该是最远伤害距离了。
http://kbismarck.org/forum/viewt ... 19de8c86e20ca48803d

"The New Jersey and Iowa opened fire at 35,000 yds. Both ships straddled the Nowaki on the first salvos, but the destroyer was disappearing in the sun glare, haze and distance. At 38,000 yds, the guns were under full radar control, and Spruance ordered cease fire at 39,000 yds."

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By the way there was a Japanese document published recently over on the IJN forum that indicated the Nowaki took some splinter damage during this engagment. So if splinters count we have a clear winner in the longest hit contest.

[ 本帖最后由 iron duke 于 2008-3-8 19:07 编辑 ]

朔风

请问铁公爵兄指的可是楚克岛那次战斗？（1943年2月16日）http://www.nettally.com/~wright/navyard1.html

USS Iowa and USS New Jersey first got to show their capabilities in action for the first time off Truk Lagoon against Japanese shipping on 16 February 1943. Admiral Ramond Spruance flew his flag onboard New Jersey ( task group 50.9) during this engagement. The two Iowas were supported by the heavy cruisers Minneapolis ( CA-36) and New Orleans (CA-32) and four destroyers. New Jersey opened the carnage by utterly smiting the minesweeping trawler, Shonan Maru No.15 with just her port side five inch battery. Iowa contuned the massacre by engaging the light cruiser IJN Katori. If there ever was a miss match of ships, this is it. Katori couldn't fight back even if she tried too much less run away, ( 18 knots top speed vs Iowa 30 knots plus for Iowa! )
Iowa fired 46 sixteen inch HC ( high capacity, not armor pearcing rounds) and 124 five inch projectiles at Katori straddling the cruiser with all eight salvos. Just after the fourth salvo, the cruiser shuttered and started to list to port. She sank stern first, after being under fire for only eleven minutes.
New Jersey engaged the destroyer Maikaze at 7,000 yards sinking her. The last remaining destroyer Nowaki fled the mass carnage, and both Iowas gave chase The fastest battleships in the world opened up their throttles and worked up to 32.5 knots. Both battleships opened fire at 35,000 yards and straddled the Nawaki on the first salvos but the escaping destoyers was fleeing into the sun glare and haze. At 38,000 yards both ships were firing under full radar control. At 39,000 years Admiral Spruance ordered cease fire. At 22 miles these were the longest range shots ever fired by US Battleships against enemy vessel. The Nowaki would escape but would not survive Leyte Gulf.

出自The Iowa Class Battleships这本书，应该是真实记录，一会找找有没有其它证据支持。

iron duke

对，正是特鲁克那次。
32.5节高速中，3万5千码跨射“野分”，并很可能对其造成损伤。真是个很了不起的成绩。

thorongil

没有任何记录能证明野分有损伤（野分在之前已经受伤），如果有的话，这次开火也不会那么没有名气。而且自始至终也没有任何命中记录


不仅如此，衣阿华对野分貌似只是一次大范围跨射而已，远不如大和对百平原那次近失精确


P.S 我很郁闷，难道日本的官方记录都一把火烧了？也难怪只有美国人的单方记录了

[ 本帖最后由 thorongil 于 2008-3-9 18:32 编辑 ]

iron duke

没说是“命中”啊，近失嘛。
By the way there was a Japanese document published recently over on the IJN forum that indicated the Nowaki took some splinter damage during this engagment.

thorongil

此处并非官方说法，无法证明任何东西吧.....