萨马，战列舰的最后炮声

thorongil

0720    TBS - v Taffy 3, "ALL CARRIERS REPORT WHETHER THEY HAVE LAUNCHED ALL PLANES. FIDO HAVE YOU LAUNCHED ALL PLANES? GEORGIA HAVE YOU LAUNCHED ALL PLANES?" .... v FIDO, "AFFIRMATIVE." .... v GEORGIA, "WILL LET YOU KNOW."

EVENT    Immediately after delivering her torpedo attack, DD JOHNSTON reverses course and retires toward the escort carriers inside her own smoke screen.


0730    Running almost abeam of the cruiser line and with battleships closing from astern, DD JOHNSTON is hit by three 14-inch battleship and three 6-inch light cruiser shells

依照这种叙述，约翰斯顿是在撤退途中被击中的，而且是在10分钟后，如果它是在10000码上对雄野射击，那它在10分钟后离雄野将近15海里，榛名在23400米击中它并不奇怪

iron duke

1万码合5海里，就算日舰不追，JOHNSTON10分钟跑10海里，也不可能啊。

thorongil

约翰斯顿以30节航速的话，10分钟跑出5海里没问题，合20000码，18000米左右

上面写15海里是我写错了，算术时把单位弄混了

iron duke

如果日舰不追差不多，可日舰不会10分钟原地不动啊。

thorongil

0724    Seven miles and closing, battleship KONGO comes into range of DD HOEL’s guns. HOEL fires her 5-inch gun’s at the large ship at 14,000 yards.


0725    Battleship KONGO returns fire with her 14-inch main batteries and hits DD HOEL's bridge

7英里命中记录是金刚号命中Hoel


0715    At a distance of about 12,000-15,000 yards IJN BB HARUNA opens fire on DD JOHNSTON and misses

另外一个和7海里有关的数字是这个，榛名在大约7海里开火，但是没命中

[ 本帖最后由 thorongil 于 2008-2-1 19:07 编辑 ]

thorongil

日舰很可能就是没有追击

第一，躲鱼雷

第二，追击一艘正在撤退的驱逐舰对于一艘战列舰来讲是愚蠢的行为

iron duke

原帖由 thorongil 于 2008-2-1 19:04 发表
0715    At a distance of about 12,000-15,000 yards IJN BB HARUNA opens fire on DD JOHNSTON and misses

7点15时榛名距离JOHNSTON 11000-14000米，怎么后来15分钟后会拉开10公里呢。榛名也有30节，是追击状态。

iron duke

原帖由 thorongil 于 2008-2-1 19:10 发表
日舰很可能就是没有追击

第一，躲鱼雷

第二，追击一艘正在撤退的驱逐舰对于一艘战列舰来讲是愚蠢的行为

躲赫尔曼的鱼雷是后来的事了。
追的不是驱逐舰，是“太菲”啊。驱逐舰是给“太菲”当绊马索，而且7：15到7：30，JOHNSTON也不是全在向后跑，正在和熊野拼命。

[ 本帖最后由 iron duke 于 2008-2-1 19:49 编辑 ]

iron duke

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Johnston_(DD-557)
In 5 furious minutes, Johnston pumped over 200 rounds at the enemy, then Cmdr. Evans ordered, "Fire torpedoes!" The destroyer got off 10 torpedoes then whipped around to retire behind a heavy smoke screen. When she came out of the smoke a minute later, Kumano could be seen burning furiously from a torpedo hit; Kumano’s bow had been blown completely off. Johnston had taken three 14 inch shell hits from the battleship Kongo, followed closely by three 6 inch shells, from either a light cruiser or possibly the Yamato, hitting the bridge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_off_Samar
The Johnston was a Fletcher-class destroyer, much smaller than a cruiser or a battleship. Her five 5-inch and light antiaircraft guns were not designed to be effective against armoured battleships or cruisers. Only her ten Mark-15 torpedoes housed in two 5-tube launchers could sink a battleship, but these only had a range of about five miles, much less than the guns of the heavy ships she was facing. Had Johnston withdrawn, every escort carrier of Taffy 3 would have been threatened with destruction due to the opposing force’s superior speed and armament. Evans therefore decided to take the chance that his ship might survive a charge and score a lucky hit.

Weaving to avoid shells, and steering towards splashes, the Johnston approached the cruiser squadron flagship, the heavy cruiser Kumano, for a torpedo run. At a range of 10 miles (20 km), Johnston engaged Kumano with gunfire, aiming for the superstructure, bridge and deck since her 5-inch shells would have bounced off the enemy ship's belt armour. At the same time, Johnston proceeded to close within torpedo range and fired off a salvo, which blew the bow off Kumano, also taking the Mogami-class heavy cruiser Suzuya out of the fight as she stopped to assist.

At a range of seven miles, the battleship Kongo sent a 14-inch shell through the Johnston’s deck and engine room, reducing Johnston’s speed by half to 14 knots and interrupting electric power to the aft gun turrets. Then three 6-inch shells, possibly from Yamato, struck Johnston’s bridge, causing numerous casualties and wounding Captain Evans in his left hand. The bridge was abandoned and Evans proceeded to steer the ship backtowards the fleet from the aft steering column, when he noticed theother destroyers starting to engage the enemy, too.

[ 本帖最后由 iron duke 于 2008-2-1 19:37 编辑 ]

thorongil

At a range of seven miles, the battleship Kongo sent a 14-inch shell through the Johnston’s deck and engine room, reducing Johnston’s speed by half to 14 knots and interrupting electric power to the aft gun turrets

维基上写的是金刚号命中的约翰斯顿，但事实上金刚号是在7海里距离命中Hoel