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[整理] William Pitt首相任期内的收支明细账(含附注)

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发表于 2010-10-30 01:28:20 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 mouqing 于 2010-10-30 01:29 编辑

那毕竟是以后的事情了,而且不想当首相的政治家也就不是好政治家了,最后不能忘了Canning比他老师有钱,他老婆家里相当富有。

卡斯尔雷的自杀有没有详细些的记述,挺精的一位。

有是有,但是很囧……

卡斯尔雷那病也是遗传病,但是他比小皮特还要悲催……不知道为什么摊上了那个东西……

E,大C那个囧病就交给你了……
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-30 01:59:21 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Elen.Pitt 于 2010-10-30 03:14 编辑

关于Castlereagh的自杀,没有很认真地去查过,wiki上是这样写的:

In 1822, he began to suffer from a form of paranoia or a nervous breakdown, possibly as a result of an attack of gout combined with the stress of public criticism.He was also severely overworked with both his responsibilities in leading the government in the House and the never-ending diplomacy required to manage conflicts among the other major powers. At the time, he said "My mind, is, as it were, gone." Londonderry returned to his country seat at Loring Hall in Water Lane, North Cray, Kent on the advice of his doctor. On 9 August 1822 he had an audience with King George IV in which he appeared distracted and mentally disturbed. Among other surprising remarks he revealed to the King that he thought he was being blackmailed for homosexuality.

On 12 August, although his wife had succeeded in removing razors from his possession and even though his doctor was in attendance, Castlereagh managed to find a sharp letter opener with which he committed suicide by cutting his own throat.

总的来说就是痛风病,政治压力,过劳。这几种混合因素可能引发了妄想症状或神经失序。

关于homosexuality的进一步资料:

In addition to the events surrounding the suicide itself, towards the end of his life there are increasing reports, both contemporaneous and in later memoirs, of exceptionally powerful rages and sudden bouts of uncharacteristic forgetfulness. At the 9 August meeting with the King, Castlereagh is reported to have been distracted, to have told the King he was being mysteriously watched by a servant, and to have said, "I am accused of the same crime as the Bishop of Clogher." Percy Jocelyn, who had been the Bishop of Clogher until the previous month, was prosecuted for homosexuality. (See H. Montgomery Hyde, Trials of Oscar Wilde, Courier Dover Publications, ISBN 0-486-20216-X.) The King surmised that Castlereagh believed he was being blackmailed for the same reason. It remains unclear whether there was some sort of extortion attempt, and if so, whether such attempt represented a real threat of exposure, or whether the purported blackmail was a symptom of paranoia he otherwise appeared to be displaying at the time. The King is said to have advised Castlereagh to consult a physician and, disturbed by the condition of his Foreign Secretary, shared his concerns with Castlereagh's friend, the Duke of Wellington. Wellington not only advised Castlereagh that he was suffering from delusions but sent a note to Castlereagh's doctor urging him to see his patient at the first opportunity. Wellington's note was submitted as evidence at the inquest. (See Leigh, Castlereagh, which draws extensively from memoirs of people who claimed to have observed Castlereagh's uncharacteristic behaviour, such as Dorothea, Countess de Lieven. The appendices include contemporary letters from observers and excerpts from the journal of Harriet Arbuthnot, who was a close friend of both Castlereagh and Wellington.)

然后关于他的病的新解释:

In a retrospective, and therefore necessarily speculative diagnosis, a thoughtful recent study has linked various instances of (at the time) little explained illness to syphilis, possibly contracted at Cambridge: here Stewart’s undergraduate studies were interrupted by a mysterious illness first apparent during the closing months of 1787, and which kept him away from Cambridge through the summer of 1788. Later, there were unexplained illnesses in 1801 and 1807, the first described by a contemporary as "brain fever" which would be consistent with syphilitic meningitis. (See Giles Hunt, The Duel: Castlereagh, Canning and Deadly Cabinet Rivalry (2008).)

大概的意思就是讲,Castlereagh犯过很多次病,在剑桥时代就开始了,1787年的最后几个月,他的大学学业被一种奇怪的病症打断,当时他离开了学校,1788年整个夏天他都处于离校状态。1801年和1807年,又有难以解释的病症发作,前面那次被当时的人描述成是脑膜炎,然后Giles Hunt在他的书The Duel: Castlereagh, Canning and Deadly Cabinet Rivalry (2008)那本书里说这种症状跟梅毒性脑膜炎一致。

网上关于神经梅毒的解释:

约有10%左右未经治疗的病人可出现神经性梅毒,患者可有不同的临床症状。无症状性神经梅毒是指缺乏临床表现,但脑脊液检查阳性的梅毒患者。梅毒性脑膜炎和其他神经梅毒除脑膜刺激征外,还可表现淡漠、易激惹和情绪不稳及人格改变、记忆和注意障碍等。在初次感染后4~7 年内,可发生典型的亚急性脑膜血管性梅毒,其临床表现比脑膜梅毒更严重,常伴有妄想、易激惹、人格改变和认知功能缺损等精神症状,随病情进一步恶化,可发展为痴呆。脊髓痨通常发生在初次感染梅毒后20~25 年内,最具特征性的神经系统症状是脊髓后部脱髓鞘和脊髓背侧根部的萎缩,可伴眼科体征瞳孔对光反射消失而调节反射存在,即阿罗瞳孔及性功能障碍、尿失禁、剧痛、全身闪电样疼痛和躯干运动失调等。

关于同性恋勒索事件,1822年8月9日,他在会见国王时,告诉国王他被一个仆人暗地里监视,并且说,“我被指控了Clogher主教的罪行。”这个主教在上个月被指控为同性恋。国王推测Castlereagh认为自己出于同样的原由被人勒索,但是是否真存在某些勒索企图还不清楚,以及如果有,这些企图是否曾被作为暴光的威胁,或者这种传说中的勒索仅仅是他在那时候表现出来的妄想症的症状?国王据说建议他去咨询医生,他被Castlereagh的情况搞得很紊乱,然后那时候威灵顿公爵也很关注这件事(他是Castlereagh的朋友),威公爵不仅跟Castlereagh说他想的那些都是错觉,还送了信给C的医生,催促他赶紧来瞧他的病人。就多种证据来看,还是因病导致神经错乱的概率比较高。而这种病是否跟既往病史有联系,甚至是Giles Hunt所说的那种梅毒性脑膜炎,就不得而知了。
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发表于 2010-10-30 02:47:50 | 显示全部楼层
过来补充一下,就卡斯尔雷的病情、发病时间以及潜伏期推测,他的病极大可能是遗传而来。

所以我和E曾凑在一起感慨,就不知道是他妈……还是他爹……还是他爹妈都……

真是父母不谨儿女遭殃= =

卡斯尔雷的自杀还有个很麻烦的后续,当时有一条明显出自宗教影响的法律:自杀的死者要被一根木棍刺穿心脏,钉在棺材中。他的朋友们(据信其中包括威灵顿公爵)影响了法庭的死因调查,最终裁定他是在精神失常的情况下自尽,并非有意自杀。才使卡斯尔雷免于此劫,最终葬于西敏寺,他与坎宁共同的老师——小皮特身旁。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-30 03:42:38 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Elen.Pitt 于 2010-10-30 19:20 编辑

自杀罪的专有名词叫felo de se,意为对己犯罪,在早期的英国习惯法里,一个犯自杀罪的成年人被称为felon,这种罪行不但要被处以没收财产的惩罚,还要受到不名誉的埋葬方式,除了木桩钉入心脏,埋在十字路口的羞辱之外,葬礼还只允许在夜间举行,不能有哀悼者和圣职者出席,葬址也不得为人所知(跟异端不得立墓碑的做法相似)。但是儿童和精神失常者自杀不被视为felo de se,也无须接受尸检。不过这种残酷的处罚在18世纪很少被应用,尤其是在富有的受害人案例上。审讯通常倾向于把自杀当作受害人精神失常导致的结果。

直到1824年以前,英国仍然实行将自杀者尸体钉埋在十字路口的法律。1824年的国会立法,才转变为自杀者只能在夜间安葬。1870年废除了自杀者财产由国王没收的没收物法令(Forfeiture Act )。1882年又取消了自杀者夜间安葬的规定。可是英国教会继续禁止为自杀者举行宗教葬礼,自杀行为依旧是犯罪行为。1961年英国通过了专门的《自杀法》,才正式废除自杀罪名。

自杀行为在新教、天主教、伊斯兰教、犹太教、印度教中都为非法。最简单的根据即自杀弃绝了上帝对人的权威,是弃绝神、不信神的体现。圣经中摩西十诫第六条和新约马太福音19:18都规定了“不得杀人”的诫律,圣奥古斯丁和后来的托马斯阿奎那这些神学家们大概将“不得杀人”扩大解释为了包括不得自杀在内。基督教观念还认为人的自杀是对上帝对世界的总设计的一种干扰。所有的宗教观念归纳起来就是,人的生命是由神恩赐的,人自身不得随意处置,若自己夺走自己的生命,即被视为蔑视神的权威,是亵渎神的做法。在严厉的看法里,即使是为殉教而自杀,都不一定是合法的。
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发表于 2010-10-30 09:26:47 | 显示全部楼层
都是夜猫子= =

木棍刺穿心脏,吸血鬼的传说跟这个有某种联系么。
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发表于 2010-10-30 14:50:02 | 显示全部楼层
WIKI说的……

应该跟吸血鬼什么的没关系,主要是宗教方面的影响,自杀不管在新旧教里面都是被谴责的东西。
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发表于 2010-10-30 15:34:06 | 显示全部楼层
回复 19# mouqing


    恩,余的想法是,吸血鬼传说中要在吸血鬼的心脏打下木桩的说法,或许便是来自于当时的这种习惯
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发表于 2010-10-30 19:23:35 | 显示全部楼层
Canning但在1809年的时候,两个倒霉催的因为荷兰Walcheren远征那件事情闹崩了,发展到决斗的僵局,Canning在这场决斗中被击中腿部受了伤。
Elen.Pitt 发表于 2010-10-30 00:20



    不是说是因为把远征军派往半岛还是荷兰而引发的争执吗???
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发表于 2010-10-30 22:49:54 | 显示全部楼层
看时间就知道是那之后的事情,这场决斗开始的时候,荷兰远征已经失败了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-30 22:50:53 | 显示全部楼层
就是这件事……
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