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发表于 2006-8-1 18:24:25 | 显示全部楼层
没死,逃出去了。岛上的是替身
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发表于 2006-8-1 20:04:38 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 血的风景 于 2006-8-1 18:24 发表
没死,逃出去了。岛上的是替身


那么缓缓驶过凯旋门的灵柩中安息的又是哪位仁兄?哈哈~
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发表于 2006-8-3 01:02:00 | 显示全部楼层
应该是各种原因的综合.首先,皇帝忙碌了大半生,让他待在一个小岛,与世隔绝,这会让皇帝在无形中意志消沉,不只不觉中患上抑郁症:其次, 糟糕的生活环境让过惯了高贵生活的皇帝很不习惯,这样的生活对皇帝身心都是一种严重的破坏,而且那里的环境也恶劣的太......生病是很正常的,不正常的就是那里的医疗环境,即使是一个很普通的病,在那样恶劣的环境也不能得到有效的治疗,可以说皇帝的死正是敌人些一手造成的,皇帝的死也使他们达到了最终的目的 但我觉得毒杀可能行不太大,如果要除掉皇帝,为什么偏偏要等到皇帝在岛上待了这么久才动手?
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发表于 2006-8-3 01:23:05 | 显示全部楼层
"那么缓缓驶过凯旋门的灵柩中安息的又是哪位仁兄?哈哈~ "
也许只是个替身~说不定真逃出来了~~(怎么象拍电影...)>.<
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-8-3 01:57:41 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 elan 于 2006-8-3 01:02 发表
应该是各种原因的综合.首先,皇帝忙碌了大半生,让他待在一个小岛,与世隔绝,这会让皇帝在无形中意志消沉,不只不觉中患上抑郁症:其次, 糟糕的生活环境让过惯了高贵生活的皇帝很不习惯,这样的生活对皇帝身心都是一种严 ...


如果用急性毒药的话就太显而易见了,皇帝是慢性中毒的,至于从什么时候动手的问题,专家用分段分析法分析了头发,在某段时间里头发里的ARSENIC含量突然升高,可以去FTP下载《拿破仑死亡之迷》。
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发表于 2006-8-3 17:10:31 | 显示全部楼层
替身的计划听说也是有的,不过...不敢相信那替身能欺骗20万人民...
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发表于 2006-8-7 01:23:03 | 显示全部楼层
反正他在灵柩中安息,谁敢动啊...再说20万人民也不是谁都能随随便便的就能靠近了看的呀...只是个假设和猜想...
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发表于 2006-8-7 14:27:59 | 显示全部楼层
我看了一本书上说本来准备用替身逃跑,可人算不如天算,最后那个替身在前来的船上被倒下的桅杆打倒了海里淹死了...
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发表于 2006-9-13 18:17:25 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 不倒的鹰旗 于 2006-8-7 14:27 发表
我看了一本书上说本来准备用替身逃跑,可人算不如天算,最后那个替身在前来的船上被倒下的桅杆打倒了海里淹死了...

那是叫<拿破仑之迷>吧
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发表于 2006-9-13 21:33:49 | 显示全部楼层
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entr ... earch&DB=pubmed


1: Hum Pathol. 2005 Apr;36(4):320-4.  Links
Napoleon's autopsy: new perspectives.Lugli A, Lugli AK, Horcic M.
Institute of Pathology, University Hospital of Basel, Schonbeinstrasse 40, $031 Basel, Switherland. alugli@uhbs.ch

In 1821 Napoleon died in exile on the Island of St. Helena. Although the autopsy had suggested stomach cancer as the cause of death, in 1961 an elevated arsenic concentration was found in Napoleon's hair. This finding elicited numerous theories of conspiracy, treachery, and poisoning. Most recent reports even suggested inappropriate medical treatment may have contributed to the exiled Emperor's death. Napoleon's apparent obesity at the time of his demise was interpreted as a strong argument against stomach cancer as the cause of death; however, his weight changes over the course of his life, noticeable from the contemporary iconography, have not been systematically analyzed. To test the hypothesis that Napoleon's weight at death could be compatible with a diagnosis of terminal gastric cancer, we performed several studies to determine: a) Napoleon's weight at death; and b) the changes of his weight during the last 20 years of his life. Our weight modeling was based on the collection of 12 different pairs of trousers worn by Napoleon between 1800 and 1821, the year of his death. Modeling trouser sizes with control data suggested a weight increase from 67 kg to 90 kg by 1820. The trousers worn at the time of death suggested a subsequent weight loss of 11 kg (to 79 kg) during the last year of his life. This weight was confirmed by a second modeling approach based on the subcutaneous fat measurement performed at autopsy (1.5 inches) and a control group of 270 men dying from various causes. This provides a reasonable validation for both weight measurement methods. Napoleon's terminal weight loss of more than 10 kg is suggestive of a severe progressive chronic illness and is highly consistent with a diagnosis of gastric cancer.

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1: Anal Bioanal Chem. 2004 May;379(2):218-20. Epub 2004 Feb 17.  Links
Elemental contents in Napoleon's hair cut before and after his death: did Napoleon die of arsenic poisoning?Lin X, Alber D, Henkelmann R.
Institut fur Radiochemie der Technischen Universitat Munchen, 85748, Garching, Germany. Lin@rad.chemie.tu-muenchen.de

Whether or not Napoleon died of arsenic poisoning is an open question on which debate has been active since 1960. This work examined several of his hairs, cut at different times and in different places: two pieces cut the day after his death on the island of St. Helena (1821) and two pieces cut seven years earlier (1814) during his first exile on the island of Elba. INAA results show that all of the samples of Napoleon's hair have an elevated arsenic concentration. These results disfavor the arsenic poisoning theory. Aside from arsenic, 18 other elements are reported, providing additional information for examining the arsenic poisoning theory.

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Gastrointestinal diseases of Napoleon in Saint Helena: causes of death.Di Costanzo J.
Department of Digestive Intensive Care and Nutritional Support Unit, Hospital Sainte Marguerite of Marseille, France. jacquesdico@aol.com

The fact that Napoleon Ist died from gastric cancer seems to be well established. Arguments for the hypothesis of chronic arsenic poisoning have recently been developed in the literature. This study, focused on the gastrointestinal diseases of Napoleon in Saint Helena, is based on a confrontation between the clinical semiological anamnesis and the anatomical data in the autopsy report by F. Antommarchi. Napoleon presented several gastrointestinal diseases: gall-bladder lithiasis complicated with angiocholitis, chronic colitis and certainly a gastric cancer. Death was consecutive to perforation of the gastric lesion leading to haemorrhagic vomitis and multiorgan failure. The description of the gastric lesions during autopsy is consistent with the diagnosis of cancer. The course of the clinical events is closely correlated with the anatomic lesions. There is strong evidence that Napoleon died from an acute complication of his gastric disease.

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Channelling the Emperor: what really killed Napoleon?

Mari F, Bertol E, Fineschi V, Karch SB.

Department of Forensic Toxicology, University of Florence, Italy.

Arsenic was present in Napoleon's hair before he arrived on Saint Helena and the findings at necropsy are consistent only with the diagnosis of ulcerating, regionally invasive, gastric carcinoma. The question of whether Napoleon died of, or merely with, arsenic poisoning is illuminated by developments in the treatment of promyelocytic leukaemia. Arsenic trioxide induces remission in many, but treatment can be complicated by QT prolongation, torsades de pointes and sudden death. At clinically relevant concentrations, arsenic blocks both I(Kr) and I(ks) channels and, at the same time, activates I(K-ATP) channels. The balance of these forces is easily disrupted, and QT prolongation is worsened by hypokalaemia. Napoleon was chronically treated with tartar emetic for gastrointestinal symptoms, and the day before he died he was given a huge dose of calomel (mercurous chloride) as a purgative. Both treatments would have caused potassium wastage. In addition, the Emperor was being treated with a decoction containing 'bark'-presumably 'Jesuit's bark'. The quinine in Jesuit's bark is another cause of QT prolongation. It is likely that the immediate cause of the Emperor's death was torsades de pointes, brought on by chronic exposure to arsenic and a medication error.

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