小学生阿萌写的几个拿破仑时代将领小传

iron duke

卡洛还算不上很好堵，但是输起来也很厉害，曾经一口气输掉5千法郎。帐本上曾级了这么一笔：
In Paris, I received 4,000 francs from the King and a fee of 1,000 crowns
from the government, but I came back without a penny.
贵族身份是个事，1770年法国设立了科西嘉贵族，卡洛还搞到了托斯卡纳贵族。但愿在英国能起码承认一个。当然，机会绝对不如在法国，拿破仑有去英军发展念头的时候革命还没开始。

iron duke

对了，滑铁卢指挥第52轻步兵团，最终打垮中近卫军的科尔伯恩是个例外，一不是贵族，二没花钱买，最后升到了元帅。虽然这是从入伍起，熬了66年才拿到的。

高守业

与之相比法国的那些同行却幸运的多拉纳 内伊 谬拉都是农民出身却很早就获得了元帅头衔，而贝尔蒂埃达武 格鲁希 麦克唐那 马尔蒙 蒙塞  贝西埃 塞吕里耶（挖坟挖到的，我也不敢相信有那么多）虽然都是贵族出身，但不可否认那个时代贵族出人头地更难。
PS一句题外话 现在英国怎么样？

iron duke

现在英国的贵族见过几个，祖上荣光还有点，基本上和普通人一样。
革命前期，贵族当军官比较难，圣伊莱是因为部下集体抗议，才没有因为贵族身份给撤职。格鲁希就没办法了，家里是侯爵不说，还有谣言传其父亲是“路易十五私生子”。那他该算路易十六堂弟了吧。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_de_Grouchy,_Marquis_de_Grouchy
(as his father, having served as a page, was rumored to be the illegitimate son of king Louis XV)

高守业

也是 哈利王子不也像普通人一样去阿富汉站岗去了。
众人看来格鲁希是个冤大头，促成滑铁卢的失败他功劳最大但他另一堂哥路易2X9回来却一点好处没给他…
呵呵 言归正传，虽然格鲁希以骑兵团长被军队除名但他又旋即加入国民自卫军甘当普通列兵，他这种爱国之情却实令人佩服。
查了一下发现格鲁希参军时只有14而圣西莱13，这已经很令人惊讶了，不过还有更BT的：克劳塞维茨 纳尔逊都是12…

iron duke

那时候军队里有不少这种“学徒”，而且一些贵族子弟，要是想选择日后从武经常这么干。
要说革命时期，这些人里真是有些挺革命的。象后来的国王路易-菲利普，在共和国军队里当师长时候，比马索、德塞都年轻。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou ... ce#Military_service

高守业

记得奥尔良公爵路易．菲利普还投票赞成处死路易2X8，在波旁王朝复辟的时候他有没有受到迫害？似乎还有几个元帅在陪他出游时被炸死，不知是否有此事？

高守业

的确
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Buonaparte
Despite being honored with many titles, Buonaparte's dissatisfied nature led him to embark in risky business enterprises. He made many claims on land and money through legal means, but his success was limited and he burned through his finances rapidly. His apparent fondness of gambling worsened his monetary difficulties. Buonaparte made note of his situation in his account book:

In Paris, I received 4,000 francs from the King and a fee of 1,000 crowns from the government, but I came back without a penny.

装甲掷弹熊

记得奥尔良公爵路易．菲利普还投票赞成处死路易2X8，在波旁王朝复辟的时候他有没有受到迫害？似乎还有几个元 ...
高守业 发表于 2010-7-31 07:11

投票赞成处死路易XVI的似乎是菲利普平等吧，后来也被处死了

After the fall of the monarchy, Philippe underwent personal risk in saving suspects to the revolutionary regime – in particular, and at the request of Grace Elliott, he saved the life of Louis René Quentin de Richebourg de Champcenetz, the governor of the Tuileries Palace, who was his personal enemy. He accepted the appellation Citoyen Égalité conferred on him by the Commune. He was elected twentieth and last deputy for Paris to the National Convention, where he again had no notable contribution other than voting in the king's trial - he voted in favour of the death sentence for Louis XVI. Many citizens of Paris saw this as an attempt by Philippe to overthrow the crown and seize power himself.[13] They believed that not only was the Palais-Royal the center for revolutionary and philosophical debates, but that it was also his ground for recruiting and financing riots and rebellious activity.[14]

iron duke

对。投票处决路易十六的是路易-菲利普国王的老爹，后来因为儿子参加杜穆里埃的密谋被捕，后被送上了断头台。
After the National Convention decided to put the deposed King to death - Louis-Philippe's father - by then known as Philippe Égalité - voted in favour of that act, Louis-Philippe began to consider leaving France.

Louis-Philippe was willing to stay in France to fulfill his duties in the army, but he was implicated in the plot Dumouriez had planned to ally with the Austrians, march his army on Paris, and restore the Constitution of 1791. Dumouriez had met with Louis-Philippe on 22 March 1793 and urged his subordinate to join in the attempt.

那次大爆炸炸死包括莫蒂埃元帅的官员十余人，路易-菲利普侥幸逃脱。在莫蒂埃葬礼上，路易-菲利普流了泪。
搞爆炸这个家伙是个造假大王，事被揭出来对社会不满，弄了20多桶炸药造了个超级炸弹。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Marco_Fieschi