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发表于 2007-5-4 08:54:47 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 KleinKlauss 于 2007-5-3 17:33 发表


马扎尔人很好战的,当时的匈牙利,是马扎尔吞并了匈奴,民兵和部落武士的区别可以说很小。


马扎尔人是匈牙利祖先,当时的匈牙利早已与封建君主国没什么区别了。参考《匈牙利千年战争艺术》:http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/thou/thou03.htm

The population was no longer a soldier population. Only the rich nobles were trained as heavy-amored cavalry. The Hungarians had long since forgotten the light-cavalry strategy and tactics of their ancestors, which were almost the same as those now used by the Mongols. They had also forgotten how their ancestors had been defeated at Augsburg in 955./10/ The Hungarian army (some 60,000 on the eve of the Battle of Muhi)/11/ was made up of brave individual knights without tactical knowledge, discipline, or talented, expert commanders. Inasmuch as the Hungarian army had no trained light cavalry at all


6万人之中主力是骑士,但那些骑士主要是各地贵族军和皇家军主力组成的,至少有5万多的人都只是民兵。文中还提到根据当时匈牙利制度,国王有权力召全国的男子参军。当时应该就属于这种情况吧。

另外西欧那些重骑兵只有在有纪律有组织的条件下作战才可以取得战果,匈牙利骑士人数没多少还都单打独斗,蒙古全数消灭应该没什么问题。
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发表于 2007-5-4 09:07:37 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 朔风 于 2007-5-4 08:54 发表


马扎尔人是匈牙利祖先,当时的匈牙利早已与封建君主国没什么区别了。参考《匈牙利千年战争艺术》:http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/thou/thou03.htm



6万人之中主力是骑士,但那些骑士主要是各 ...

The Hungarian tribes of Árpád vezér who came to settle in the Carpathian Basin were noted for their fearsome horse-mounted warriors, who conducted frequent looting campaigns throughout much of Western Europe (once as far as Spain), terrorizing the entire population with their long range and rapid-firing reflex bows. Not until the introduction of well-regulated, plate-armored knight heavy cavalry could German monarchs stop the Magyar armies.
The founding king of Hungary, Stephen I of Hungary abandoned light cavalry and acquired a western-style, knight and infantry based army. This principle worked well for Szent László, the late 11th century knight-king who pacified the Cuman tribes, but failed disastrously 150 years later when the undisciplined Hungarian feudal knight army was totally destroyed by Mongol invaders at the Battle of Muhi in 1241. The Mongol herds used much the same weaponry and tactics brandished by the Hungarian tribes two centuries earlier.
The Hungarian knight army had its golden age under King Louis the Great, who himself was a famed warrior and conducted semi-successful campaigns in Italy due to family matters (his younger brother married Joan I, Queen of Naples who murdered him later.) King Matthias Corvinus maintained very modern mercenary-based royal troops, called the Black Army. King Matthias favoured ancient artillery (catapults) as opposed to cannons, which were the favourite of his father, Johannes Hunyadi the ottoman-beater, who defended Belgrade in 1456.
During the Ottoman invasion of Central Europe (between late 1300s and circa 1700) Hungarian soldiers protected fortresses and launched light cavalry attacks against the Turks (see hussars). The northern fortress of Eger was famously defended in the autumn of 1552 during the 39 day Siege of Eger against the combined force of two Ottoman armies numbering circa 120,000 men and 16 ultra-heavy siege guns. The victory was very important, because two much stronger forts of Szolnok and Temesvár had fallen quickly during the summer. Public opinion attributed Eger's success to the all-Hungarian garrison, as the above two forts have fallen due to treason by the foreign mercenaries manning them. In 1596, Eger fell to the Ottomans for the same reason.
In the 1566 Battle of Szigetvár, Miklós Zrínyi defended Szigetvár for 30 days against the largest Ottoman army ever seen up to that day, and died leading his remaining few soldiers on a final suicide charge to become one of the best known national heroes. His great-grandson, Nicholas Zrinski, poet and general became of the better known stratagems of 1660s. In 1686, the capital city Buda was freed from the Ottomans by an allied Christian army composed of Hungarian, Austrian and Western European troops, each roughly 1/3rd of the army. The Habsburg then annexed Hungary.
照这么说,匈牙利人打仗就是罗翰的轻骑兵+要塞战术
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发表于 2007-5-5 08:14:58 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 朔风 于 2007-5-4 08:54 发表


马扎尔人是匈牙利祖先,当时的匈牙利早已与封建君主国没什么区别了。参考《匈牙利千年战争艺术》:http://www.hungarian-history.hu/lib/thou/thou03.htm



6万人之中主力是骑士,但那些骑士主要是各 ...


好资料,刚看了看,牧农业在匈牙利还占有主要角色,国王的权力也相当可观.
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发表于 2007-5-5 09:13:47 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 KleinKlauss 于 2007-5-5 08:14 发表


好资料,刚看了看,牧农业在匈牙利还占有主要角色,国王的权力也相当可观.


贵族们在面对入侵时还是挺配合的,不过部队素质实在不怎么样。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-2-6 16:36:12 | 显示全部楼层
我想给顶起来。呵呵。我觉得这个文章不错。有新人可以看看。
在此,祝大家鼠年新春快乐,南方的战友们,祝你们能是瑞雪兆丰年。
发财发财。
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