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1812年功臣——巴尔克莱•德•托利

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发表于 2007-3-21 19:54:01 | 显示全部楼层
WEB2上有详细介绍。
波兰轻骑4师(3,15,16,2,7,11枪骑兵团)对5个团俄国正规骑兵(Ahtirka Hussars, the Kiev and New Russia Dragoons, the Lithuania Uhlans and the 5th Jagers),8个团哥萨克骑兵及2个炮连。(两军共6团乌兰,8团哥萨克,这得有多少长矛啊)
7月9日,三个波兰团(3,15,16)以第3团为先导攻击MIR,第3枪骑兵团遭伏击损失惨重。
次日,波兰全师追击,与俄军爆发6小时的骑兵大战,波军被逐退。但最后靠后援波兰第4猎骑兵团和骑炮阻住了普拉托夫。

http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/cossacks.htm#cossackstactics
In 1812 at Mir the Cossacks scored victory over Polish cavalry. Platov with eight Cossack regiments and two Don batteries deployed in the woods south of Mir. One Cossack regiment (Sisoiev-III's) was posted on the southern edge of the village. In front of Mir stood Platov's advance posts. One brigade of the French [Polish] 4th Light Cavalry Division advanced on Mir with the 3rd Uhlans leading the way. Behind the 3rd were the 15th and 16th Uhlan Regiment. The 3rd Uhlans threw back Platov's advance posts and traversed the village at a gallop. The 3rd Uhlans attacked Sisoiev-III's Cossack Regiment but Platov's counterattacked with the bulk of his force. The Cossacks had struck Poles' front, flanks and rear nearly annihilating the 3rd Uhlans. General Turno brought up the 15th and 16th Uhlans and held Platov for a while before being thrown back.
Nafziger writes: "Turno was the reinforced by the arrival of ... 2nd, 7th and 11th Uhlans. At the same time, Platov was reinforced by the arrival of GM Vasilchikov with the Ahtirka Hussars, the Kiev and New Russia Dragoons, the Lithuania Uhlans and the 5th Jagers. However night fell as they arrived and the battle broke off. On the 10th, Platov drew up his rearguard (Ahtirka Hussars, Kiev and New Russia Dragoons, Illovaiski #5, # 10, # 11 and # 12, and two horse batteries) along the road to Mir, and placed the rest of the Cossacks in an attempt to ambush the Polish cavalry as it resumed the advance." Kouteinikov's force (half of the Ataman Cossacks, Grekhov-VIII's Cossacks, Haritonov's Cossacks and Simferopol Tartars) moved to Simiakovo.
The 4th Light Cavalry Division followed Platov. The 7th Uhlans took the lead while Turno's 3rd, 15th and 16th Uhlans were on the edge of Simiakovo. The 2nd and 11th Uhlans were on the northern edge of the village. Platov's regiments attacked the 7th Uhlans and threw them back. They also attacked the 3rd, 15th and 16th Uhlans. The cavalry battle raged for 6 hours ! Kouteinikov's 2,100 men arrived and charged throwing back the left wing. Platov pushed Turno back and advanced on Mir where he encountered Polish 4th Chasseurs and horse battery. Now it was Platov's turn to loose ground, he abandoned Mir and withdrew to the woods.
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发表于 2007-3-25 08:41:14 | 显示全部楼层
我记得的是7月10日,俄历6月28日,普拉托夫哥萨克军遭遇波兰骑兵。波兰骑兵打的过于兴奋,在哥萨克面前吃了不少亏,不过俄军也没能真正击败他们,法军第4猎骑兵团赶来支援以后普拉托夫最后还是撤退了。应该 ... [/quote]<br />
的确是7月10号,我自己看错了,谢谢VV和铁公爵的指点。
PS:The Three Musketeers不是《三个火枪手〉的标准翻译方法么?
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发表于 2007-3-25 11:59:58 | 显示全部楼层
那就要请教懂法文的了。KK好像懂哦!
我是2003年陪一个法国设计师去兵马俑时和他谈起大仲马时这么说的The Three Musketeers,反正大家说的都是6脚英语(一人3脚 ),彼此都能听懂。
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发表于 2007-3-25 20:48:34 | 显示全部楼层
vv现就在法国留学……
作为文学作品,muskteer翻译成火枪手也好,或者像更早的那样翻译成三剑客也好,无关紧要,但作为兵器和兵种在现存的译名中滑膛枪和滑膛枪手更合适,更易为人接受。
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发表于 2007-5-1 07:36:54 | 显示全部楼层

VV这篇文写的太好了,不仅补充了论坛里这方面资料上的不足,描写也十分生动精彩,尤其是波若季诺那一段,读到骑兵大战的时候心跳突然加速

巴尔克莱命令多赫托洛夫的第24师反击。后者不幸迎面撞上赶来增援的欧仁的骑兵,2个中队的波兰胸甲骑兵将俄军步兵击退。


这个也太牛了,2个波兰骑兵中队击退了俄军1个师,即使不是整个师参与反击这种成绩也十分了不起了。
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发表于 2007-5-11 21:52:02 | 显示全部楼层
可惜历史名人中,默默无闻的太多了。
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发表于 2007-5-11 23:15:45 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 austerlitz 于 2007-2-19 06:10 发表

1808-1809年,俄国和瑞典再次开战。

那次战争英国和瑞典是站在一边的,尤其是海军舰队。想查一下海战情况,结果发现
一段相当惊人的统计:
# Paraskevia 74 - Captured by France 1809
# Sv. Elena 74 - Captured by Britain 1808
# Uriil 84 - Captured by France 1809
# Yaroslav 74 - Captured by Britain 1808
# Moskva 74 - Captured by France 1809
# Sv. Petr 74 - Captured by France 1809
# Selafail 74 - Captured by Britain 1808
# Sadd al-Bahr 84 (ex-Turkish Sadd al-Bahr, captured 1807) - Captured by
France 1809
# Rafail 84 - Captured by Britain 1808
# Silnyi 74 - Captured by Britain 1808, released 1813
# Tverdyi 74 - Captured by Britain 1808
# Moshtchnyi 74 - Captured by Britain 1808, released 1813
# Skoryi 64 - Captured by Britain 1808

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_line_of_Russia
在SERIES里发现,英国缴获的俄战列舰多数是在里斯本扣下的。法国1809年得到的俄战舰则应该是移交。
http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/battles/c_medfleet.html
对俄国海军来说,这两年是个灾年。

[ 本帖最后由 iron duke 于 2007-5-11 23:38 编辑 ]
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发表于 2007-5-15 09:22:54 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 iron duke 于 2007-5-11 23:15 发表

那次战争英国和瑞典是站在一边的,尤其是海军舰队。想查一下海战情况,结果发现
一段相当惊人的统计:
# Paraskevia 74 - Captured by France 1809
# Sv. Elena 74 - Captured by Britain 1808
# Uriil 8 ...


俄国海军的战舰在当时应该是比较落后的吧,个人猜测从彼得以后就一直没怎么改进过,不过不清楚到底是不是这样。

猜想情况跟西班牙一样,纸面上有海军,实际上能作战的战舰不多。
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发表于 2007-5-15 20:04:00 | 显示全部楼层
俄国海军在彼得大帝之后曾一度衰落,到叶卡捷琳娜女沙皇时代再度发展起来。海军最大的战列舰达到130门炮。俄土战争,几次决定性击败了土耳其人。1790年俄舰队在维堡海战大败瑞典海军,不过后来也在Svensksund被瑞典人打个惨败(西德尼.史密斯那次在瑞军中助阵)。1799地中海上乌沙科夫的俄舰队也表现甚佳。1809年因为英国舰队在索马里兹带领下助瑞典,俄军舰队大占下风,不过主要靠陆上的战役定了胜负。
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发表于 2007-5-16 05:56:59 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 iron duke 于 2007-5-15 20:04 发表
俄国海军在彼得大帝之后曾一度衰落,到叶卡捷琳娜女沙皇时代再度发展起来。海军最大的战列舰达到130门炮。俄土战争,几次决定性击败了土耳其人。1790年俄舰队在维堡海战大败瑞典海军,不过后来也在Svensksund被 ...


真巧啊,我昨日发完这个回复后就在网上搜索了西德尼史密斯,正好了解到维堡和两次SVENSKSUND海战,第一次了解到俄瑞之间还发生过这么大规模的海战。好象维堡海战后来被称为“北方的特拉法加”?

PS 在拿破仑时代英军海军将领中,西德尼 史密斯是我最看好的一位,他曾与富尔顿一起合作实验新的技术,违纪小传说他“指挥近海作战行动颇有技巧”。
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