拿破仑的最后一战滑铁卢战役总结与研究

Gustavus

补充一下Bijlandt/Bylandt旅的材料

Les bataillons de Kempt, de Pack et de Bijlandt, au nord du chemin d'Ohain, étaient fréquemment atteints par les boulets ennemis et les obus venaient éclater, en blessant les hommes tet les chevaux, jusque dans les rangs des brigades de cavalerie anglaises et néerlandaises, qui avaient mis pied à terre dans les creux du terrain près de la ferme de Mont-Saint-Jean.
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La plus grande partie de l'infanterie anglo-néerlandaise, formant le centre gauche, et, parmi elle, la brigade von Bijlandt, resta en ligne en s'abritant dans le chemin creux et derrière les haies qui en garnissaient les bords. Plusieurs bataillons anglais, plus exposés à une attaque éventuelle de la cavalerie, s'étaient formés en carrés.

La campagne de 1815 aux Pays-bas d'après les rapports officiels néerlandais Waterloo, p. 127-129

荷比官史

iron duke

偶木散人 发表于 2018-12-31 08:38
而且内心不忠心支持拿破仑有很多种做法，不一定非要拿起武器参加联军与拿破仑作战才是唯一选项。缺乏主动， ...

高级将领怠工的有，象麦克唐纳可以属于罢工了。但如卡尔诺和勒古布等当年反拿著名人士都还是为国尽全力的。而北方军团被拿破仑后来冠以消极的戴尔隆、格鲁希，偏还是上了路易十八的十九人一级战犯榜单的忠诚分子代表。这个榜单奈伊上一级，苏尔特上二级多少有些“冤”，暂且不算。

王法拉

好久没这么热闹，围观一下

iron duke

还有这个达武和“很多将领”反对格鲁希封元帅到底有没这事?罗伯茨在'拿破仑与威灵顿'里提了一嘴，只说到是达武反对，引的是个通俗读物Chalfont的'滑铁卢'所述。具体情况和很多将军都有谁呢?

iron duke

另外罗伯茨说的儒尔当政治不可靠靠不靠谱，似乎是引的老钱的书。

Gustavus

iron duke 发表于 2018-12-31 19:08
还有这个达武和“很多将领”反对格鲁希封元帅到底有没这事?罗伯茨在'拿破仑与威灵顿'里提了一嘴，只说到是 ...

看起来像是Waterloo: Battle of Three Armies
这书archive有在线阅览，就是得排队

第30页说

Mortier, suffering badly from sciatica, to command the Grenadier Guards; and, against Davout's advice, Grouchy, whom Napoleon had only just appointed marshal and put in command of the cavalry reserve army corps.

意思是达武反对格鲁希指挥骑兵，没列出来源，罗伯茨也跟着说达武反对格鲁希指挥骑兵

同时引的另外两本
Connolly, Blundering to Glory Napoleon's Military Campaigns, p. 206

Napoleon created one new marshal, Grouchy, a marquis of the Old Regime who had repeatedly distinguished himself as a cavalryman. He was designated to command the cavalry reserve, but he was given a more critical assignment in the field.

Uffindell and Corum, Ligny, p. 27

The other French marshal to participate in the 1815 campaign was Emmanuel, marquis de Grouchy. The last of Napoleon’s twenty-six marshals, Grouchy was promoted only on 15 April 1815. He would fail to live up to expectations. Although steady and determined and a cavalry commander of genius, Grouchy lacked dash and imagination in the realm of strategy. In 1815, Grouchy would command the Reserve Cavalry of Napoleon’s army. He would also command the French right wing, except when the Emperor was present in person as he would be at Ligny. Grouchy was to be a more important figure in the campaign on 17 and 18 June than at Ligny; nevertheless, he would be a noteworthy participant there.

iron duke

Gustavus 发表于 2018-12-31 19:51
看起来像是Waterloo: Battle of Three Armies
这书archive有在线阅览，就是得排队

Napoleon and Wellington罗伯茨的原词是：
Davout opposed Grouchy's promotion to such an important post, which carried with it the likelihood of an independent command, but Napoleon went ahead.
（Andrew Roberts(2001) Napoleon and Wellington: The Battle of Waterloo and the Great Commanders p148
）
觉得怪怪的，南方军团当时也就两个师，这种独立职务德拉波德，莫里托干都没什么问题，而且格鲁希９日已经把昂古莱姆平了。要是到北方当时十有八九是预备骑兵司令，这职务封个元帅也般配得很。看来罗伯茨是把chalfont的词给｀加工｀了。

iron duke

Gustavus 发表于 2018-12-31 19:51
看起来像是Waterloo: Battle of Three Armies
这书archive有在线阅览，就是得排队

Napoleon and Wellington罗伯茨的原词是：
Davout opposed Grouchy's promotion to such an important post, which carried with it the likelihood of an independent command, but Napoleon went ahead.
（Andrew Roberts(2001) Napoleon and Wellington: The Battle of Waterloo and the Great Commanders p148
）
觉得怪怪的，南方军团当时也就两个师，这种独立职务德拉波德，莫里托干都没什么问题，而且格鲁希９日已经把昂古莱姆平了。要是到北方当时十有八九是预备骑兵司令，这职务封个元帅也般配得很。看来罗伯茨是把chalfont的词给｀加工｀了。

stranger

iron duke 发表于 2018-12-30 20:58
拿破仑到了圣赫勒拿，还对威灵顿居然停在了苏瓦纳森林前的滑铁卢“愤愤不平”，见拿破仑的滑铁卢圣赫勒拿八 ...

这个圣赫勒拿八评在网上哪儿可以看到？

iron duke

stranger 发表于 2018-12-31 21:20
这个圣赫勒拿八评在网上哪儿可以看到？

"Historical memoirs of Napoleon. 1815" P147
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Za1UAAAAYAAJ总共是九评，对选战斗地点选择在８评之三



四个叹号，是很愤愤不平的。